50% of iLog jRules sales end up running on a competitive App Server?


I’ve just read an email where it was stated:

Did you know that 50% of iLog jRules sales end up running on a competitive App Server – including Oracle, JBoss and Tomcat?

and was wondering how it could have happened? Perhaps as a stroke of luck (or genius :)) I’m not surprised whatsoever. Even the samples and the ZB300 course run on Apache Tomcat so why would customers go for a commercial offering if they’re satisfied with what they got bundled?

Now, things have changed. During the days when ILOG JRules was not part of the WebSphere family it’s clear to me that the ILOG dev team might not have cared about WAS that much. Since IBM’s acquisition of ILOG, no one believes or expects it will last long. That’s obvious. The WebSphere ILOG JRules’ brand (or home as one could name it) is the WebSphere family now and IBM WebSphere Application Server will eventually become its twin brother, de facto the reference runtime environment.

I hence wonder how many readers have deployed or are about to deploy RES or RTS (acronyms used on purpose for your learning experience and solicit feedback from practitioners) onto IBM WebSphere Application Server? Let me know so I keep pursuing my ILOG JRules learning experience as a WebSphere specialist.

While I believe ILOG JRules can do much, there’re others on the BRMS market. With the recent reading of Open Source SOA by Jeff Davis, Manning 2009, which I highly recommend, I know the question is not merely about runtime environment for BRMS solution, be it WAS, Tomcat, JBAS or Oracle WebLogic, but the solution itself. Since this book was about Open Source SOA solutions, JBoss Rules (aka Drools) was a winner, but my brief exposure to Drools confirmed myself ILOG JRules seems to be better (at least from the development tools’ perspective). Have you done any feature comparison recently? What was the outcome?

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3 responses to “50% of iLog jRules sales end up running on a competitive App Server?

  1. Hey Jacek,

    I just stumbled upon your blog. Great initiative to share your journey through BRMS / Decision Management-land.

    I am not really surprised either that many new sales are with other platforms. The ratio of Websphere sales must have been increasing steadily of course given the added IBM salesforce for the ILOG products but keep in mind that the number of BRMS vendors remain fairly small. If someone is interested in automating Business Rules they have a handful of commercial solutions today to look at so keeping ILOG in the running — regardless of the App Server — is a wise decision, if only to keep the price competition up.

    I have a lot of respect for Drools and Mark Proctor. I think that if you are a techie looking for a rules engine without the bells and whistles of BRMS, this is the right tool. If you are looking to embrace Decision Management, i.e. exposing business rules to business users and giving them ownership, then Drools may not be the best tool. ILOG and others do provide an interface that is much more usable by mortals that are not versed into coding.

    Carole-Ann

  2. Tom McManus

    Jacek —

    ILOG BRMS 7.1 no longer comes default with Tomcat. IBM replaced Tomcat with WAS CE as the default run time. WAS CE is Geronimo based with a migration path to WAS. I agree with Carole Ann that if you stick with technical type rules Drools is good. But the main idea is to get Business out of the hair of IT and to allow business to be more dynamic and not slowed down my IT. There is no doubt that the Decision Validation service is a key differentiation from the other rules engines.

    Keep up the good work!!

  3. Konrad Machotka

    Fortunately there are separate installation bundles for tomcat and jboss and weblogic as well for 7.1 . It looks like the ibm is still supporting tomcat then 🙂

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